Luke Grant is joined by Senator Amanda Stoker after the response from Senate Estimates last week where Senator Stoker earned the ire of Green’s Senator Lidia Thorpe. This goes back to the Morrison government announcing it had reached a $20.5 million deal to secure the copyright in January after a years-long legal controversy over the use of the Aboriginal flag.

In Senate estimates last Friday, Greens senator Lidia Thorpe said many Indigenous people were concerned the government now owned the copyright and asked whether it was time to begin a discussion about sovereignty.

However, the committee grew heated after Senator Thorpe quipped that the flag was now “Australian”, prompting Senator Stoker to respond that it was now “just like all Indigenous people”.

“I think it is an uncontroversial proposition that Indigenous Australians are Australian,” Senator Stoker said.

“I’m being whitesplained, I’m not going to be told by a white senator that I’m an Indigenous Australian, that is insulting,” responded Senator Thorpe.

Luke asks Senator Stoker about whitesplaining and why it seems so many on the left are so angry.

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